Denise Morris interviews fellow Mole, Jan Haaken. In addition to working with the Old Mole, Jan is a clinical psychologist and documentary film-maker. Her most recent film, "Mind Zone: therapists behind the front lines", has received national attention and she's appeared recently on CNN (transcript) and Democracy Now (audio). They talk about Robert Bales and the questions about PTSD in the massacre he recently committed in Afganistan. Jan underscores the tension between therapists' prerogative to heal and preparing soliders for war, and how the focus on PTSD distracts us from the political context goading this and other mental pathologies.