We talk with author Sasha Lilley about her book Capital and Its Discontents: Conversations with Radical Thinkers in a Time of Tumult (Spectre), Occupy Oakland, and her activism as a shop steward at KPFA radio station in Oakland, California, where she co-produces and co-hosts the program Against the Grain.

Then we talk with Kristian Williams about police, their unions, and their relationship to the working class.  He is the author of Our Enemies in Blue: Police and Power in America and the recent article "Cops for Labor?" in the September/October issue of Dollars and Sense magazine, and a member of the National Writers Union. You can find more of his writings at www.kristianwilliams.com.

Music: "I Fought the Law," The Clash

Image: Occupyoakland.org