Welcome to episode 11, and the first 30-minute edition of Un-Herd archives. This one goes all the way back to January 26, 2009, featuring the spazz-jazz duet called Thicket. This band features the most frequently appearing guest of Un-Herd, drummer John Niekrasz, of notables such as Naked Future and Why I Must Be Careful. On alto saxophone we have Ben Kates, a long time collaborator with Niekrasz, in bands like Fly Fly Fly Fly Fly, and Naked Future. Ben is missed in the Portland avant-garde scene as of this retrospective while teaching elementary students in Alaska. With that, please enjoy, Thicket.