Voices from the Edge

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Community dialogue is important. At 8am every Thursday Voices from the Edge lends a KBOO microphone to informed guests you might not hear anywhere else. With an hour to invest, the call-in format engages listeners in meaningful conversations about crucial issues like racial disparity, government accountability, environmental justice and politics on local, state and national levels. Join lively discussions about concerns that are important to you and our community. Together we’ll make Oregon and our nation a better place for a larger number of those living here.

About the host

Jo Ann Hardesty is Principal Partner at Consult Hardesty. She serves as a subject matter expert on a myriad of issues and is available as a speaker, facilitator and campaign planner. A long-time voice for Portland's under-represented communities and a leader in the struggle against racial and economic injustice, Jo Ann was three times elected to the Oregon legislature and for many years Executive Director of Oregon Action. She’s been called on by the City of Portland to help re-write the City Charter and organizes those on the downside of power to pursue their interests from the local to the federal level. She is particularly committed to leadership development and in holding those in power accountable.

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Voices from the Edge on 08/12/10

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What bridge does the community need on the Columbia River? A conversation with the Third Bridge Proj

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What bridge does the community need on the Columbia River? A conversation with the Third Bridge Project

Voices from the Edge on 06/24/10

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Creating dialogue amidst the rhetoric: AmericaSpeaks' Portland Town Meeting: Our Budget, Our Economy
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Voices from the Edge on 05/27/10

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Coffee, Tea and VOE: A talk with Coffee Party's Kristy Alberty and Common Cause Oregon's Nate Gulley
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Voices from the Edge on 08-02-12 Police Plan to Address Racial Profiling, Three Years Later

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Host Jo Ann Hardesty & Guest Co-host Roger David Hardesty discuss the 2009 passage of a city ordinance implementing a plan to address - not eliminate, but address - racial profiling by the Portland Police Bureau (PPB).

READ THE PLAN HERE www.portlandonline.com/police/index.cfm

The PPB have been compiling ‘stop data’ to determine the role that race is playing when officers decide to stop & search Portlanders. The results indicate racial profiling continues. It’s against the city’s ordinance, the state constitution & written police procedure, but racial profiling remains in practice.

READ JUNE 2012 MEDIA COVERAGE OF STOP DATA HERE portlandobserver.com/

www.portlandmercury.com/BlogtownPDX/archives/2012/06/19/police-accountability-groups-say-racial-bias-persists-in-latest-traffic-stop-data


Studio guests Anthony Gibson and Isaiah Carter will describe recent interactions with the Gang ‘Enforcement’ Team. Were they driving a car that was too nice for the neighborhood?

On 23 July, Videographer Joe Anybody accompanied a group of mothers as they set out on a 100-mile walk in support of human rights and dignity for children afflicted by ‘the current psycho-pharmaceutical treatment model.’ Before they could get out of Portland, the group discovered our guests, and two other African Americans, detained by perhaps a dozen members of Portland’s Gang ‘Enforcement’ Team. The human rights activists and many community members remained on the scene until the police withdrew. Once again, after an hour’s investigation under careful scrutiny by the community, no cause for arrest could be made.

VISIT M.O.M.S. HERE: andsowewalk.com/

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Voices from the Edge on 07-26-12 Copwatching M.O.M.S. and the Police 7-23-12 video

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Hosts Jo Ann & Dave discuss the "Copwatching M.O.M.S. and the Police 7-23-12 video "

VIEW IT HERE  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xVM8--cs5xk&feature=share 

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Voices from the Edge on 07-19-12 Open Lines

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Dave Mazza hosts open lines around the discussion, "does personal change equal political change?"

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Redefining our relationship with the homeless

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Thu, 07/12/2012

 Hosted by Dave Mazza.  JoAnn Hardesty is on vacation.

 

Last year, Portland City Council approved a pilot "overnight sleeping" program that would permit churches and other non-profits to make their parking lots available to people currently living in their cars. The measure, loosed based on a similar program in Eugene, was intended to offer refuge for those on the brink while more permanent support was found. When Sellwood's Moreland Presbyterian Church announced earlier this spring their intent to be the first church to carry out the program - in their case for a single woman living in her car - a vocal minority raised a sufficient ruckus that the church delayed implementation of its plan. Now a second church, northeast Portland'sWestminster Presbyterian Church has announced their desire to participate in the program.

Why does such a limited presence of those without homes in Portland neighborhoods provoke such strong reactions? How do we change Portlanders' ideas about who the homeless? Can we move beyond current policies of concentrating the homeless in certain areas of the city to integrating them into neighborhoods with which they often have deep connections? Joining us in this conversation is David Groff, a member of Westminster Presbyterian who is one of the leads in conversations with the city about implementation of the plan. Groff is also chair of the board of Operation Nightwatch, a volunteer program offering evening hospitality services to the homeless and residents of single room occupancy facilities.   

Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media, as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.

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Voices from the Edge on 07-05-12 Fireworks!

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Thu, 07/05/2012

Dave Mazza hosts open lines...what's concerning you the day after we celebrate Independence?  In response to this week's discussion on the Abe & Joe Talk Radio Show,  callers also give their two cent cents about Portland neighborhood fireworks!

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Voices from the Edge on 06-28-12 Checking in with the Supremes

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Thu, 06/28/2012

This Thursday, the Supreme Court is expected to release its ruling on whether President Obama's health care law is constitutional. While the most watched and awaited, its one of several key decisions by the court this week. On Monday, the court delivered a split decision on Arizona's 2010 immigration law, sustaining its centerpiece - the requirement that state law enforcement officials determine immigration status of those they stop or arrest where reasonable suspicion exists. Also this week, the court barred mandatory life sentences for juveniles, ruling it was a violation of the Eighth Amendment's ban on cruel and unusual punishment, and declined to revisit Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission.

This week, Jo Ann and Dave will look at what these and other rulings mean for Oregon and the nation. They will also be bringing news of the court's health care decision as it becomes available.

Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media, as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.

 

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Voices from the Edge on 06-21-12 Why are Portlanders upset about flash mobs?

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Why are Portlanders upset about flash mobs?

Silent disco. Worldwide pillow fights. These and other unusual, satirical or artistic acts have become part of the social phenomenon known as "flash mobs." Using social networking sites like Facebook, flash mob participants have often used these spontaneous events to poke fun at a culture that elevates conformity while obsessing over being part of "the next big thing." As flash mobs have increased in frequency and diversity, they have also evoked a range of responses, from local governments that are labeling them as dangerous disruptions, to white supremacists who cite these events as validation of their racial views.

This week, Jo Ann and Dave will look at how this phenomenon is playing out in Oregon. Joining them in the conversation is long-time gang outreach specialist and community activist John Canda. Should Portlanders be concerned about flash mobs? Are youth of color participating in flash mobs at risk? If you've participated in flash mobs, we encourage you join the conversation and share your view on this growing social phenomenon.

Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media, as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.

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Voices from the Edge on 06-14-12 Subsidizing segregation: Portland's fair housing failure

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Thu, 06/14/2012

Subsidizing segregation: Portland's fair housing failure

The Fair Housing Act of 1968 was intended to help break down the walls of segregation and poverty by protecting the fundamental right of anyone, regardless of color, to have the opportunity to live where they choose. Over the past 44 years, millions of taxpayer dollars have gone to advance that goal through ensuring affordable housing is part of every neighborhood. But a new report by the Oregonian that examined metropolitan area public housing records found that far from breaking down segregation and poverty, Portland and other local governments have reinforced it. The poor and people of color have been concentrated in the region's poorest neighborhoods while desirable communities such as Inner Southeast Portland and Lake Oswego remain white and affluent.

This week, Jo Ann and Dave are joined by Brad Schmidt, the Oregonian reporter who pieced together this disturbing picture from public records that often required legal action to obtain. Portland State University Associate Professor of Urban Studies and Planning Karen Gibson will also join the conversation. Gibson is currently conducting a study of the political economy of neighborhood change in Portland's historic black community, the Albina District. Join us as we examine how "progressive" Portland has failed so dismally and what needs to happen to create a truly fair housing environment in the region. 

Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media, as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.

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Voices from the Edge on 06-07-12 How did Portland police fare in new report on officer-involved shootings?

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How did Portland police fare in new report on officer-involved shootings?

The Portland City Auditor released on May 30 a

new report

by outside experts that examined officer-involved shootings of "individuals experiencing some level of mental or emotional crisis." The investigation also scrutinized communication at the scene of critical events. Among the cases examined was the shooting death of Aaron Campbell. The report, which is part of a series of outside reports conducted by the auditor's office since 2002, comes as Portlanders will be choosing the next mayor - who will decide who serves as police commissioner - and a new council will be gearing up for the 2013 round of

collective bargaining negotiations

with the police association. This week, Jo Ann and Dave look at the report, its findings and it ramifications on policing, next year's collective bargaining agreement, and police accountability in the coming years.

Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media, as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.

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Voices from the Edge on 05-31-12 Can we break through polarization about climate change?

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Can we break through polarization about climate change? A conversation with Max and Ellen Schupbach about deep democracy

Climate change remains a political lightening rod that's left those who believe and those who deny it exists locked in a stalemate that makes action by the broader community impossible. Are more facts needed or is there a need for examining the process by which we address and act upon such critical issues? How do we move forward where power is distributed unequally among those involved?

This week, Jo Ann and Dave talk with Dr. Max Schupbach and Dr. Ellen Schupbach of the Deep Democracy Institute about how we can open up a deeper level of discourse that allows for dissent, action and community building. The Schupbachs have brought their perspective and skills in deepening democracy to such varied settings as community-building efforts with Croation and Serbian war refugees, and the use of public space by businesses, "punks," and others community members in Zurich. They are organizers of an Open Forum on Climate Change taking place in Portland June 1-3 that includes a June 2 community discussion at the Oregon Convention Center facilitated by Worldwork and Process Work founders Drs. Arnold and Amy Mindell.

Jo Ann Hardesty is a former state legislator, former director of Oregon Action and past board president of Portland Community Media, as well as a long-time leader in the struggle for racial and economic justice. Dave Mazza is a journalist and former editor of The Portland Alliance who has covered and been involved in Portland's civil rights, environmental, labor and peace movements for over 20 years.

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Please give 12 minutes of your life to this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQglhA4FK8I

show of 12/8

I appreciate your show more than I can say...however I have some criticism. Your comments about 911 show that you have trusted the mainstream media and have not had the courage to look into documented facts since the event. I am not going to talk here about the mountain of evidence to the contrary, but as a source of so called "independent media" I am disappointed in your rote line of naivete'. Please try the documentary of architects and engineers as a starting place.


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VRTE-Greg Palast

From a friend in Vancouver Canada, thanks for all your good work joann and Dave.

I enjoyed the interview you had with Greg and spent time searching for more of his investigative journalism.

I am now retired and have had direct experience with pipeline inspection, specifically what is called "pipeline integrity".

Greg spoke of pipeline "pigs" that are inserted inside of a 'live' pipeline (product flowing inside) to detect discontinuities which may include cracks and/or corrosion etc.  The "pig" is not sensitive enough to determine the discontinuity.  The pig records information along its path and if it detects a discontinuity it records the position or location of the possible defect.

The areas in which the pig has detected a discontinuity is dug up and inspection crews report on the specfics of what they discover.

That information is communicated to the inspection company's client and it is the client to determine whether or not the discontinuity requires attention, such as replacement of a section of the pipeline.

The pig may indeed by programmed to distinguish between what the pipeline company determines are non-relevant discontinuities.

When I was working on existing pipeline inspections the client's engineers would have sections of a pipe that had some external corrosion (that we had quantified in terms of depth of the corrosion and remaining pipe wall thickness) removed and delivered to their lab where they conducted "burst tests".  These tests are actually hydrostatic tests which produce high pressures in the pipe until the pipe bursts.  From this information a pipeline company determines whether or not a discontinuity is relevant or not. 

I would imagine that if the pig that Greg Palast was talking about in Alaska was indeed programmed to exclude discontinuities that pipeline engineers had determined through testing were non-relevant.  As Greg pointed out, this practice does appear to be suspicious and probably he has a case in terms of how the pig's program can be tampered with.

Almost all of the pipeline leaks lately are due to pipelines that were fabricated and buried 30-50 years ago when knowledge of coatings, metals and soil science (cathodic anodic interactions) were not fully understood.

I am not sure if governing bodies have required pipeline companies to conduct their pig inspections on a more frequent basis.  I do know that one can send a pig down a line and 6 months later a spill can occur.  This may be due to rapid corrosion caused by a multiple of causes.  Once coating fails on the external surface of a buried pipeline, moisture, soil chemicals and inherent electrical currents can accellerate corrosion causing a failure even in areas of the pipe that had no relevant discontinuities.

In Canada, and I believe in the US, our governments have slashed the direct public oversight component of regulation relying on "corporate responsibility".  Most public oversight consists of reviewing corporate paperwork.  The review usually does not consist of a full reading of that paperwork.  If the public is to be assured of pipeline safety it must ask for more inspections and more government inspectors who oversee some of the "digs" to determine severity of pipeline discontinuities.

Again, thanks for your hard work!

Phil

 

Which Party To Blame

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I enjoy your show, but you said this morning that it was the Republicans that got us into this mess. Both of you are too intelligent to give the Democratic party a pass on their equal responsibility in destroying our economy, in perpetuating a decade of war and the associated war crimes, torture, and erosion of the civil liberties of this nation.  Both the Democrats and Republicans have fleeced, degraded, and tried their best to destroy the working class for the profit of their corporate benefactors. After all, wasn't it Clinton who signed the bill repealing Glass Steagall. Wasn't it under Clinton that Brooksley Born, his own Commodity Futures Trading Commission chair, was stripped of her power and credibility when she rightly warned of the pending doom associated with derivatives? Wasn't it Clinton that signed the bill allowing further consolidation of our media. In my opinion, one of your callers today struck on our only deliverance. We need to create a strong party of and for the people to compete with these two dominant parties, both of which are only working for the corporate elites. I would like to see a labor party - a party that is dedicated to enhancing the lives of anyone receiving a W-2. I would like to see liberal people of influence, like Michael Moore, Arianna Huffington, Bill Maher, Bill Moyers, Amy Goodman, Chris Hedges, Robert Scheer, and the like to join forces and implement this desperately needed option for working people. A strong workers' party is the only viable solution for this country. Until such time, I will vote for any party other than the dominant two, or I'll vote for an independent or I will write in Bernie Sanders, or either of you. But I will not reward the criminal class that has, and continues to destroy working class America with impunity.

 

 

Foreclosure Mills

I just wanted to post a link to an article about the foreclosure mills that make money off of the forsclosure mess.  http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/07/david-stern-djsp-foreclosure-fannie-freddie?page=1

taxing "gross" income?

can you clarify?

don't the measures increase rates on taxable income, not gross income, as the first caller mentioned? 

Still waiting for my apology from Joann

Dear Ms. Bowman,

I did not hear an apology for you making a blatant distortion of my comment.  I do not appreciate being lied about and especially by a campaign which you obviously are supporting which hypocritically poses as the moral arbitrator of the Universe regarding truth telling.

Again, let me clarify:

First off, I did not say, as was falsely stated by you and your guest, that politicians have a right to lie.  I stated that everyone has a right to lie about their love life.  That is a vastly different point and I bitterly resent being lied about on this.

This distortion (lie) by your guest and you is sadly emblematic of the hyperbolic nature of this entire pesudo-moralistic campaign.

I will receive your apology before I ever again associate with you or this program.

Sinverely,

Will Ware

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Lying about lying on the Edge

I don't know how to get an email to the disc jockey.

Will again and please correct your slander of me and misstatement of my comment.

First off, I did not say, as was falsely stated by JoAnn and your caller, that politicians have a right to lie.  I stated that everyone has a right to lie about their love life.  That is a vastly different point and I bitterly resent being lied about on this.

This distortion (lie) by your guest and JoAnn is emblematic of the hyperbolic nature of this entire pesudo-moralistic campaign.

It is a fact that Republicans involved in this are using this as an organizing tool.  It is a fact that this campaign is making common-cause with anti-progressive forces.

It is this campaign that is the divisive force in our community.

This signature campaign is the darling of the right wing.  This campaign is the best thing that has happened to the Multnomah Co. Republican Party since Theodore Roosevelt.

If this is about negative campaigning- WHY IS THIS SUCH A THOROUGLY NEGATIVE CAMPGAIGN.  IT REDUCES POLITICAL DIALOG TO THE LEVEL OF A GRAMMER SCHOOL PLAYGROUND.

 

Cops and Race

Very interesting program today (8/6/09). Here's a germane link to an article by Kevin Alexander Gray in The Progressive "Citizens have the right to talk back to the police":

http://www.progressive.org/mpgray080409.html

In my view, a well trained cop could have and should have defused the situation far short of arrest.

Too frequently, cops escalate situations, especially when dealing with people of color.

As Mr. Alexander sums up in the final sentence of his article: "We should never have to fear when we stand up for our rights." And that goes for people of all hues.

Citizens have the right to talk back ...

I agree, Peter. This article is germane: One outcome of Professor Gate’s arrest should be an understanding that “What lends legitimacy (to our legal system) is our belief that the police are dutiful servants of the people — not their arbitrary oppressors.”

The Declaration of Independence promptly asserts “… Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the consent of the governed.”

'Know Your Rights' training is imperative, as a 'check and balance' against unwarranted interference with the intent of the U.S. Constitution. An informed citizenry is a Public Good. Vigilance against abuse of power is actually a civic responsibility.

I know first-hand a tendency by Portland police to escalate situations that might be otherwise resolved. I have only an inkling of the mental pressures involved in policing, and but a dim suspicion as to the social handicaps that come with wielding weapons, spending so much time in the milieu of antisocial behavior, of having a community grant your uniformed subgroup status as The Enforcers. I would suspect such pressure, status and lethal equipment make it difficult to appreciate a role of Servant of the People.

Do you know what the common ground may be?

Law enforcement.

How can we change our dialogue so that a person of color, being thrown up against chain link fence – sometimes even without a pretext of wrongdoing – has standing when there is no probable cause that a crime is being committed?

By advocating that police actions adhere to Constitutional provisions for freedom from unwarranted search, to be secure in their possessions; would not this citizen also be involved in law enforcement?

One really ironic point I failed to make on the program is that, from the time of Chief Kroeker onward, it has likely been in the consciousness of Portland Police Bureau command that racial profiling actually inhibits criminal detection and prosecution. Simply the perception of police misconduct reduces the quality of public cooperation. One of the results of racial bias is that it is more difficult to secure leads and eventual witness testimony from a disenfranchised, victimized population of law-abiding citizens.

I suggest there will be a real reduction in crime (due to citizen cooperation) when and if policing is seen to be done lawfully. If it were a shared perception that people who oppose the immoral, unethical and illegal practice of racial profiling had merit as Constitutional law enforcers, I would think this a positive dynamic … and not just for people of color, but other negatively affected groups like the mentally ill, for whom self-advocacy is a supreme challenge.

Let us fuse training and dialogue. You mention the ‘well-trained cop.’ Perhaps ‘Know Your Rights’ training (and Oregon Action training includes de-escalation strategies) might dovetail with Portland Police Bureau training. What would be achieved if police training alerted officers that a segment of the population - fatigued by unconstitutional behavior - will be advocating for just and equitable treatment?

If that segment of the population included Police Commissioner Saltzman, Human Rights Commissioner Fritz, City Auditor Griffin-Valade and Mayor Adams, I think the Police union would find impetus to engage in negotiations for a means to weed out officers refusing to enforce the Constitution, state law, or bureau regulations.

To take up your point about police as public servants, the Auditor’s Independent Police Review Board is poised to actually adopt that frame of reference. Currently specializing in facts and figures, there is a component of their reporting primed and ready for public pressure to make this a prime frame of reference for assessing the Police Bureau’s functionality.

Perhaps better left for another blog, I just want you to know that civilian oversight of armed government activity is imperative as the nation pursues a War on Terror. If the City of Portland were to weigh in on fundamental human rights during the nation’s general expansion of police powers, it stands likely to do a Public Good that cannot now be calculated.

Environment: global warming

On this morning's (June 18) program Joann mentioned a man (I think she said "young" and "minority" )who is becomming active in environmental matters, I would like to talk with him about joining the planning and implementation of an event that is scheduled to take place on October 24th.

I am a member ot the Peace and Social Concerns Committee of the Multnomah Monthly Meeting of Friends (Quakers), and the organizer of a sub-group called "Global Coolers". We meet monthly and have taken the responsibility of informing the Meeting about global warming and involving them in efforts to lessen our individual and collective destructive impact on the planet.We have also hosted a couple of community events over the past several years.
Yesterday I learned that Bill McKibben, who is a leading activist in the environmental protection movement, is organizing a world-wide demonstration to take place on October 24: it is described on 350.org.
I want to make sure that Portland participates in this event.
I have not talked yet to other environmental activists about involvement (there may already be plans afoot) but I will do so in the next couple of days. In any case I will welcome all participants in the planning and execution of the event. My telephone number is 503-292-1817.
Thank you for your attention.
Peace, Jim

Measure 53

I was disturbed to hear this morning information that leads me to think I did not check out the ballot measures carefully enough. As an intelligent conservative, I find it both important and difficult to listen to KBOO and other left-of-center sources regularly, and the comments this morning made it clear that I should invest more energy into that effort.

On the other hand, I was a bit amused (and relieved of my nascent guilt) when I heard you adamantly insist that Measure 53 passed by a 76-24 margin because a day-old paper said so. It is possible that the Oregonian was that far off the mark - if so, I would assume that it was an early edition which showed very preliminary results. I went to three sources this morning of which two gave vote tallies. KATU.com indicates that as of 8am today the vote on 53 was YES 475,838 and NO 473,912 which is a margin of less than 2000 votes out of nearly 1 million. Rounded to the nearest percent, the vote is 50-50. KOIN.com had very similar (probably identical) numbers.

So I figure that if you let your personal opinions cloud such simple and easily ascertained facts, if you are so closed-minded that you will not double-check this when it is disputed, I need not concern myself with your judgment on the more complex issue of Measure 53 itself.

- Gordon

Very Disappointed Today

I’m a newer fan to KBOO. I listen every morning now and Voices From the Edge (VFE) is definitely one of my favorite morning program. I’m usually quite a fan but today I was really disappointed by Joann and the President of NAACP. A man called up and asked “Why aren’t all black men supporting Obama?” He was trying to be controversial and disruptive. He tossed a lure of disconcert to the radio hosts and what did they do . . . they bit. Joann dominated the conversation, provided a flippant/emotional/short rebuttal and pushed the guy off the air. Worse yet, the President of the NAACP said NOTHING! What on earth is a leader of the NAACP supposed to do but say something in these situations? That was the caller that VFE/NAACP should pray for, wish for, hell invite. HE WAS THE PERSON YOU ARE TRYING TO REACH AND YOU PUSHED HIM AWAY INSTEAD OF INVITING THE CONVERSATION AND PROMOTING GROWTH. We don’t make progress if those who disagree don’t discuss and debate. VFE too often discusses topics with people that share the same liberal view and all you are doing is reinforcing existing beliefs. It’s pointless if you want to effect change. You missed a tremendous opportunity today to change this guy and affect all those who share the same beliefs. He actually made a few valid points—Why wouldn’t black men support Obama? It would do wonders for equality. What has Obama ever done?—but with limited scope. You had a chance to discuss, inform, and enlighten those who wondered the same things. You said nothing constructive and you let ignorance prevail. Joann you should be more prepared the next time. The President of the NAACP should be mad as hell at herself. “Nothing in all the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity.” “Let no man pull you low enough to hate him.” -MLKjr

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